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I'm Jennifer Carole and I am the Lawyer's Daughter. My dad (a lawyer) and my stepmom were murdered in March 1980 in Ventura, California. Through cold case detective work and DNA, our crime was linked to the notorious Golden State Killer. The pod includes real-time reporting and memories. It's just me so I'll be using a live, radio style of podcasting. Feedback always welcome! PS: the blog is LawyersDaughter.com.
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Thursday Mar 05, 2020
Mar 5, 2020 | Now | DeAngelo Wants to Plea
Thursday Mar 05, 2020
Thursday Mar 05, 2020
I’m back! This is a reboot of my podcast about the Golden State Killer. There's so much stuff happening in public and behind the scenes, this is the best way to keep up! Today I talk about DeAngelo apparently offering a plea (as announced in a footnote on page seven of the Motion to Dismiss) and discovered by Paige St. John of the LA Times. I saw a notification on Reddit that stopped me cold. This episode covers what's happened since Tuesday with regard to the offer, questions the intentions of the defense and confirms the existence of a letter to victims from the defense.
Companion Blog: https://jcarole.com/march-5-2020-podcast-notes-deangelo-wants-to-plea/
Friday Mar 06, 2020
Mar 6, 2020 | Now | Not All Victims Are Treated Equally
Friday Mar 06, 2020
Friday Mar 06, 2020
It turns out there are different kinds of victims in this messy, ginormous case and depending on the crime or where you live, you'll have a different experience from other victims. This episode explains the different factions and the different kinds of communication we are getting and expresses our desire to be considered as one large group to the extent that is possible. Included are statements from Kris and Gaye, who do a phenomenal job of expressing their frustration from different victim subsets.
Saturday Mar 07, 2020
Mar 7, 2020 | Now | Motion to Collect Five Buccal Swabs of DeAngelo's DNA
Saturday Mar 07, 2020
Saturday Mar 07, 2020
This motion is what will be argued on Thursday. I discovered, in the motion, information I didn't know before. I think you'll find it satisfying. The prosecution does a wonderful job of stating clearly and firmly that this additional DNA is needed and why. I also share some feedback from Gaye based on yesterday's podcast and a little personal information about my love of journalism and journalists.
Sunday Mar 08, 2020
Mar 8, 2020 | Now | Marsy's Law - California's Victim's Bill of Rights
Sunday Mar 08, 2020
Sunday Mar 08, 2020
With many of us feeling like we aren't getting all the information we need, I take a look at Marsy's Law, California edition, and what this means for anyone who is a victim of crime. Along the way, I also discuss how this law was enacted in California using our Initiative Process (for better or worse) and how these turn into Propositions that are voted on by the citizens. I also briefly discuss Prop 69, that made it legal to collect DNA.
Tuesday Mar 10, 2020
Mar 10, 2020 | Then | 1968 Learning to Ride a Bike
Tuesday Mar 10, 2020
Tuesday Mar 10, 2020
The news is going to get real again as we head into the hearing on Thursday, so I thought today we'd take a little break and go back to 1968 - the year I got a bike and what happened when my dad tried to teach me how to ride it. I love that my parents were super utilitarian and expected us to figure things out so quickly. Considering this foreshadowing for what happens next!
Wednesday Mar 11, 2020
Wednesday Mar 11, 2020
On March 7th, I went through the prosecution's request for additional DNA. You might want to listen to that first, before you listen to this one. Today, I go through the defense response to the motion and it's long and a little whiny. They make a few valid points. There's one giant argument that's closely related to the Motion to Dismiss (that won't be heard tomorrow). I wonder how the judge will rule - he might end up tabling the whole thing until April 29th, the date of the next hearing. We will see!
Friday Mar 13, 2020
Mar 13, 2020 | Now | Court Date March 12, 2020 - More DNA Swabs and Lawyers
Friday Mar 13, 2020
Friday Mar 13, 2020
It was a busy day yesterday. Started with a meeting with the defense. This happened because the defense sent a letter to those of use with charges earlier this year. I met with them in the morning at the Sacramento District Attorney's Office. After that, I grabbed a beverage and headed to court. It was a longer session than we expected, but really interesting. After that, we were whisked off to meet with the Prosecutors - and that went very well. This pod is a bit more extemporaneous than usual because I'm exhausted today and wanted to get this done! So I used my notes and just talked through them.
And here's a link to the letter, it helps to see it: https://jcarole.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Letter-from-the-Defense-2.pdf
Monday Mar 16, 2020
Mar 16, 2020 | Now | What Incarceration Might Look Like for DeAngelo
Monday Mar 16, 2020
Monday Mar 16, 2020
The DNA has been obtained and now we have a chance to talk about what incarceration might look like for DeAngelo - if he ends up on Death Row or if he does manage to provide a plea that satisfies everyone and is incarcerated for life without parole (LWOP they call it). If he doesn't die from Coronavirus, what might his future hold? Here's a look at what I learned.
Tuesday Mar 17, 2020
Mar 17, 2020 | In the News | March 19, 1980 to May 18, 1980
Tuesday Mar 17, 2020
Tuesday Mar 17, 2020
These articles from my Murder Book explain how the case isn't going anywhere and law enforcement is basically stumped. You might want to listen to the other In the News pod first so you have the coverage from day one. This picks up where that leaves off and I end with some feelings I didn't expect. It's just baffling to me how much they didn't really understand about the crime scene and the evidence. The assumptions, based on what we know today, are mind-blowing.
Monday Mar 23, 2020
Monday Mar 23, 2020
Here's the audio version of my live talk - the audio/visual version is here on YouTube: https://youtu.be/yyFcM8h85d4. The video has slides of photos you might find interesting. This is the jist of our whole story, or at least the Readers' Digest version (that means it's high-level and moves across time rather quickly). Also features guest audio from one of DeAngelo's rape survivors.